Saturday, December 26, 2009

Is it genocide in Gaza? And is it Ethnic Cleansing in the West Bank?

The Israeli human rights organization B'Tselem published its annual report about the Israeli atrocities in the occupied territories.


Israeli forces killed last year 660 citizens.


The number of Palestinians killed by Israel last year tripled in comparison to the previous year. The Israelis killed 141 children in the last year.


This means that since 2000, Israeli forces killed almost 4000 Palestinians, half of them children. It is 2000 children that since 2000.Is it genocide in Gaza? And is it Ethnic Cleansing in the West Bank?
First off, to rollo. Sir, prove Hamas even exists in the first place. Recently 6 Israeli soldiers fired a mortar at an elementary school, claiming they saw Hamas militants fire an RPG-7 round at them. The mortar they fired in retaliation destroyed the school, killing 8 children and injuring 27 others. When the UN searched the school, they found no evidence of any Hamas activity nearby, causing them to say Israel had fired on false claims. What's more, the UN had given map coordinates to all the schools under the UN's protection. The school that was fired upon was one of those schools, making it even more suspicious. To the question. Yes, I believe it very well may be genocide that is going on in Gaza right now. I mean, think about it. First of all, really, Israel does belong to Palestine. 2 years after the Holocaust, some world leaders got together and discussed what to do with the remaining 3 million Jews, Gypsies, etc. Great Britian went and had a compromise with Palestine. Palestine agreed to give some of its land to house those Jews, and now they are being killed by the Israelis. Second of all, this conflict has now killed over 5000 Palestinians, and only about 30 Israelis. What the hell do you call that? It's for no reason, it's stupid, and it truly is a massacre from hell.Is it genocide in Gaza? And is it Ethnic Cleansing in the West Bank?
Gaza is governed, at this time, by a recognized terrorist organization whose stated goal is to kill Jews and destroy Israel. Not to kill Israeli soldiers; to kill Jews.


They are not a credible source of information.


They have been shooting rockets and sending suicide bombers into Israel every day for 8 years, to kill Jews. Not to fight a war. To kill Jews.


In spite of this, Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, allowing Gaza the opportunity to govern itself. It was unable to do so. And the attacks on Israelis continued.


Unlike Hamas, Israel aims at military targets. The reason so many children are killed is that Hamas places them around military targets to force Israelis to kill them. Israelis have to choose between letting Hamas kill Israeli civilians, or killing the Palestinian civilians that Hamas uses as ';human shields.';


If it's genocide, then Hamas is killing off its own people.
What do you call it when Hama deliberately targets civilians in its rocket attacks on Israel? What do you call it when Hamas deliberately hides its rocket launchers behind civilians? Have you asked any questions condemning Hamas's actions? Do you grant Israel any right to defend itself against rocket attacks?
Of course not. Its not genocide to protect yourself, even from every fire cracker set off by Hamas!





On a serious note, it is but I have a feeling its going to be forgotten pretty soon and Israel will be able to, once again, get away with it.
Yes, there is genocide in Gaza. I do not like the West Bank at all! They are like Israelis puppet. Let me tell you something my friend, ';No one can justify the killing of innocent children's, I swear!';. Remember my quote and you will be golden!
Hamas are the ones that ensured children would be killed, so their deaths could be used for propaganda against Israel.


If you deny that, then there is no hope for you.





EDIT: When Hamas launches attacks from schools, mosques and neighborhoods, then those places are targeted by the IDF.


But then if Hamas didnt attack from populated areas, that wouldnt get enough of their own civilians and children killed, and they wouldnt have the propaganda power that they get with lots of innocent dead.
Ethnic cleansing - Obviously.





Genocide? - that's a bit strong. 'Mass murder' would be a better description.
yes it is how can anyone call themselves the holy people of this world and bomb schools full of women and children.then say one Israeli life is worth 100 palestinians
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of course you left out the people who are Israeli unjustly murdered by terrorists
1) Yes


2) Yes





Appalling isn't it.
YES and again YES





And the biggest cause of death in the Israeli military is......





Suicide.





Good to know that there are some with a conscience.
its a WAR,not a genocide.





some people need to look up the word genocide in a dictionary.





hamas and many other terrorist organizations stated that they would like to finish hitlers job and kill the rest of the Jews,not just in Israel. what is that fantasy called?





Israel's goal is to get rid of hamas militants and terrorists....hamas' goal is to get rid of all Israelis and Jews.Nuff' said.





There is no point in argueing with you any further,it sounds like you probably never read a book in your life,nor bother hearing both sides of the story.
Nope and nope.
I'm with Euro.
I am so tired of answering these stupid questions that buy into the PA screaming with words that don't match reality.





First list all the Israelis kiled since 2000 by Palestinian bombs inside Israel. It's in the 1000s.





Then get more accurate numbers. B'Tselem uses whatever the Paletinians report, not a vetted real set. Then copy them accuraty from their site. Half were definitely NOT children.





For instance, 16-17 year old rocket launchers who were struck by a counter missile to their launcher where called innocent children by the Palestinians -- in THEIR media, %26amp; as they report it. They claimed that in 2 minutes of time the real adult bombers left without their portable launcher, %26amp; these children, teenage boys, came instead to collect it as scrap metal. It was such a pathetic twist of the obvious that it was almost funny -- except those PA parents didn't keep their kids safe.





Second start listing the number of bombing attempts at Israel in the last year %26amp; all the Israelis that would have been killed by the specific Palesetinians killed by the IDF. Hint, that bombing attempts are still frequent, they just don't get through to Israel. Your count includes all of those %26amp; their bomb makers.





Then look up the word's genocide %26amp; ethnic cleansing. Compare that to Gaza having one of the highest population growth rates in the world (not birth, growth). Those terms are as irrelevent as the story that those ';children'; militants weren't the one's who shot the missile at Israel civilians.





I've said it before, I'll say it again. There are Arabs who want peace. Suporting the proganda %26amp; language of the most hateful %26amp; violent there, does not help those who want a better life.





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Holocaust %26amp; Nazi are equally irrational terms, that indicate the person's never picked up a book on either. Well, except in the ME, Mein Kaumf is a best seller in some countries.





In the Holocaust, babies were tossed in the air %26amp; shot for target practice, people were fried in gaint frying pans in front of family, 80-90% of Jews were killed in 3-4 years. They were kept in such tight quarters that for the 4-5 hours sleep permitted per night they had to sleep sitting up to fit 5 to a bunk. They were forced to work while on a starvation diet of 400 calories a day (1/2 ration, non-Jews were given the still starving full ration of 800 cals/day.)
I would call it a repitition of the holocaust. Not as many people died as much as the holocaust, but the Israelis are using the same techniques that the germans used against the victims of the holocaust.





';Israel is deeply saddened, by the loss of civilians and innocent people'; yet they still got the guts to shoot at a two year old girl called Sana and kill her mother, other two sisters and other relatives while having munching on chocolate and crunching on a packet of crisps. ';saddened';





dave b: please explain to me then this point. Israel's claim that they killed one of the key leaders in the hamas group. Did he die in a school? Did he die in a hospital? Did israelis fire and bombs pound into a bunker he was ';hiding'; in? Did he get killed in a UN refugee camp?





No.





He died at home with his family. His wife, his daughters were all killed by the bomb. so this claim that you have brought up just does not make sense. and i will tell you why.





before thinking of posting one of your ';youtube'; videos of hamas using human shields. look at the headbands the men are wearing: in case you did not know, yellow headbands represent fatah not hamas. check it up yourself. besides on a daily basis how many times have the israeli army used men, boys, girls and young children as human shields to get into houses, checkpoints and other places.
yes it is.


and for those who say it's self defense well i think we can't even compare the mass destruction of palestine and the state of israel.


And we can't certainly say that some rockets have the same impact as 1 million phosphoric bombs( from the UN) and uranium bombs. Not to mention attacking schools and hospitals...

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